David Ivall (1795 - 1850) built up a
thriving coach making business in London (David was the younger brother of
Thomas Ivall, my great great great grandfather). After David’s death in 1850
Martha Ivall, his wife, became the proprietor of the business. The following
advert appeared in The Times dated 17 May 1851
CARRIAGES – The WIDOW of the
late DAVID IVALL, in returning thanks for the patronage received since his
decease, begs most respectfully to assure the nobility and gentry that the
business is conducted in the same manner and upon the same principles as
heretofore, and respectfully invites them to an inspection of the extensive and
modern assortment of well manufactured CARRIAGES, which are either for SALE or
JOB, with the option to purchase, at the old-established manufactory, 158
Tottenham-court-road.
Similar adverts appeared on 19 September 1851 and 17 August 1852 in The
Times.
Martha Ivall died in 1853. After his mother’s death, James Ivall
(1832-96), who had served an apprenticeship as a coachmaker, formed a
partnership with William Collins Large to run the coachmaking business at 158
Tottenham Court Road. Ivall and Large are listed at this address in the London
Post Office Directories of 1855 to 1858.
On 16 February 1856 this advert was in The Times
“CARRIAGES” – Final closing
of the executorship of the late David Ivall, and in order to ensure a speedy
accomplishment of the same, the remaining STOCK of well-manufactured CARRIAGES
are now on SALE at very reduced prices at the manufactory, 158
Tottenham-court-road, London, where orders and repairs are executed as
heretofore by the present firm, Messrs IVALL and LARGE, Mr Ivall being the son
and successor.
David James Ivall (1830-73), the elder brother of James, joined the
partnership of Ivall and Large in about 1858.
William Collins Large was born in 1818 in Middlesex. The 1861 census
shows William C Large aged 43 and gives his occupation as a coachbuilder
employing 45 men and 3 boys. He was living at 10 Stamford Villas Fulham with
his wife Juliana (42) and children Matilda (19), Emily (14), William (12) and
Edgar (3) and one servant. The 1871 census shows the family living in
Camberwell with two servants. In 1881 they were living at 345 Clapham Road,
Lambeth and had three servants. William’s son Edgar (aged 22) is listed as a
coachbuilder, like his father.
The London Gazette of 4th April 1862 contains the following
item announcing the departure of James Ivall from the Ivall and Large partnership :
Notice is hereby given, that
the partnership heretofore subsisting between the undersigned, in the business
of Coach and Harness Makers, carried on at No 125 Piccadilly and No 56 South
Audley Street, both in the county of Middlesex, under the style or firm of
Ivall and Large, hath been dissolved, as from 31st day of March
last, so far as respects James Ivall, by mutual consent. As witness our hands
this 1st day of April 1862. David James Ivall, William Collins
Large, James Ivall.
The Lloyds Weekly Newspaper printed this report on 13 November 1862 :
A third fire took place in the premises of
Messrs. Ivall and Large, coach-builders, 56, South Audley Street, Grosvenor
Square. The workshops were destroyed by fire and part of the roof was burned
off.
Rate Books for 1868 to 1873 show that Ivall and Large occupied premises at 1 Princes Buildings, Victoria Street, Westminster. They also paid rates from 1870 to 1873 for a property in Upper Tachbrook Street, Westminster.
As well as coaches for normal use, Ivall and Large made carriages for ceremonial occasions. The London City Press (30 September 1871) describes one of these :
The
state carriage of Mr. Sheriff Young is modern light, handsome chariot, painted
a rich light blue body, carriage part and wheels vermilion, relieved with blue
and white. The carriage is lined with rich white silk. The seat cloth is white,
with blue fringe and silk hangers to correspond; there are handsome silver
lamps, snake loops, and heraldic ornaments. Messrs. Ivall and Large, Victoria Street,
are the builders.
The will of David James Ivall, dated 30th January 1873
describes him as “of Victoria Street, Westminster, Coachbuilder”. He died later
that year, thus ending the Ivall family’s connection with the firm (although
the Ivall name was retained for continuity). William Collins Large continued to
run the firm, forming a new partnership with William Alfred Parton in 1874.
An advert for Ivall and
Large, Carriage and Harness Manufacturers published in the 1879 edition of
Burke’s Landed Gentry.
The following item appeared in the London Gazette dated 8 February
1887:
Notice is hereby given that
the Partnership which has for some time past been carried on by William Collins
Large and William Alfred Parton, under the firm of Ivall and Large, at 390 and
392 Oxford Street, 10 to 13 Bird Street and 125 Gloucester Rd, South
Kensington, in the business of Coach Builders and Harness Makers, was dissolved
on Feb 5th 1887. Wm C Large, W Alf Parton.
The National Archive at Kew has Company Records for Ivall, Large,
Dodson and Co. An attempt was made to form this company in 1892 by the merger
of Ivall and Large, coach builders with Alexander Dodson, omnibus builder. The
nominal capital of the new company was to be £30,000 arising from the offer
3,000 shares of £10 each. The directors of the new company were to be William
Collins Large, coachbuilder, Charles John Jones, a director of Blundell,
London, Copper and Brass Work, Ltd, William Alfred Large, architect and Edgar
Charles Large, carriage builder. Alexander Dodson was to be the manager of the
Dodson works and Edgar Charles Large the manager of Ivall and Large. The
Certificate of Incorporation was dated 20 September 1892. However, there is a
letter in the file dated 2 June 1894 to the Companies Registration Office
saying “….we beg to say that as no
capital was subscribed, this Company (ie Ivall, Large and Dodson) was never started and in consequence both
businesses were sold by auction last year.” Elsewhere in the file it says
that the firm of Ivall and Large was bought by Holland and Holland, 479 Oxford
Street.
In Old Sydney Town, Somersby, NSW, Australia there is an example of a barouche
coach made in 1897 by Ivall and Large for the Maharajah of Mysore in India. It
is used as transport for weddings. A photo of the coach is shown below.
The London Post Office and Business Directories have the following
entries which show the changing address of the business over the years :
Year
|
Entry
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1841
|
David Ivall & Co, coach and harness makers, 158 Tottenham Court
Rd
|
1851
|
David Ivall, coach and harness makers, 158 Tottenham Court Rd and 18
Cardington St, Hampstead Rd
|
1852
|
Martha Ivall (Mrs), coach and harness maker, 158 Tottenham Court Rd
and 18 Cardington St, Hampstead Rd
|
1855
|
Martha Ivall (Mrs), coach and harness maker, 18 Cardington St,
Hampstead Rd
Ivall and Large, coach and harness makers, 158 Tottenham Court Rd
|
1856
|
Ivall and Large, coach and harness makers, 158 Tottenham Court Rd
|
1862
|
Ivall and Large, coach and harness maker, 56 South Audley St and 125
Piccadilly
|
1871
|
Ivall and Large, carriage and harness maker, Victoria St, Westminster
|
1882
|
Ivall and Large, carriage builders, Victoria St, Westminster
|
1884
|
Ivall and Large, carriage builders, 390 and 392 Oxford St, 10-13 Bird
St, Oxford St & Cobrg Row
|
1892
|
Ivall and Large, carriage builders, 390 and 392 Oxford St,
manufacturing 10,11,12 &13 Bird St, Oxford St
|
1902
|
Ivall and Large, carriage builders, 479 to 483 Oxford St
|
1912
|
Ivall and Large, carriage builders, 479 to 483 Oxford St
|
The last record of Ivall and Large is in 1912 (they are not listed in
the 1913 directory).